BARR ON THE ROCKS

Harry Litman [00:00:07] Welcome back to a special episode of Talking Feds -- a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day. And what a day. Probably one of the five biggest days of the entire probe the day when Attorney General William Barr came to the Senate Judiciary Committee in a much anticipated appearance to explain why he had decided, contrary to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, that the President the United States did not commit obstruction of justice. 

 

Harry Litman [00:00:52] Barr spent hours responding to aggressive questioning from Democratic senators about his decision making layered in with sweetheart valentines from the Republican members of the committee who seemed to be focused on the inception of the probe and Hillary Clinton's emails and the like. I'm Harry Litman. I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General and also an assistant United States attorney or line prosecutor and a Washington Post columnist. 

MUELLER IN THE HOUSE

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Harry Litman [00:00:18] A quick heads up on this episode, we recorded it before the redacted Mueller Report had come out. So you're going to hear a couple instances that now have been overtaken by events. But really the thrust of this is exactly contemporary, it's what's happening in Congress now that the Mueller Report has been delivered to it. And it really is in our view, down the middle, germane to the coming weeks. 

 

Harry Litman [00:00:52] Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutors roundtable that brings together prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day, including the investigations of the president and his circle. Today we have sort of a hybrid show, we're here in Washington D.C. with three former federal officials who have extensive experience both at the Department of Justice, but also in working on the Hill, either in Congress or with Congress. So now that the main field of operations is moving over to Congress, we have the opportunity to talk to people whose rich experience in the sometimes tumultuous back and forth with Congress can really illuminate what the next week and months will show. We're going to talk first about the prospects for the house to get an unredacted Mueller report at all and then turn a little bit to the nuts and bolts of a possible independent investigation in Congress, how much of a sort of replay of what Bob Mueller did can we expect in Congress in the coming months. 

A DEEP DIVE INTO MURKY WATERS

Harry Litman [00:00:25] Welcome back to Talking Feds. A prosecutors roundtable that brings together prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day. 

 

Harry Litman [00:00:39] This week has probably been the single most important of the last 22 months. We've now finally had our first look at the redacted version of the Mueller Report. Along with everyone else,we gave our quick take on the top line conclusions of the report. And now we are delving deeply into the almost 400 pages of facts, law and analysis set out there. 

REDACTION REACTION

Harry Litman [00:00:25] [MUSIC] Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day. Today we're in Washington D.C. and talking about the question that is really on everyone's mind, the Mueller Report and the redactions in it that are going to be delivered within the next few days. And then we will turn to a brief discussion of the Julian Assange arrest and prosecution, and the different both practical and you could say moral issues or constitutional issues raised by that arrest.

REPORT SUMMARY [REDACTED]

Harry Litman [00:00:27] [MUSIC] Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together some of the most prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day, including still today the investigations of the president and his circle.

Harry Litman [00:00:46] Today we're talking about the strange goings on within the Department of Justice and the apparent war of words between the Attorney General, William Barr, and Special Counsel Robert Mueller. And then we will turn to the prospects for Congress to get some of the Mueller Report and related materials, and the president's tax returns.

THE MUELLER REPORT: AND NOW WHAT?

Harry Litman [00:00:07] [MUSIC] Welcome to a special episode of Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together prominent former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day. And today we have maybe the most important legal topic of the year or the Trump presidency because we finally have the Mueller report in our hands, and we finally have Bill Barr's account of exactly what he did with the Mueller Report, and we're going to talk about both. Now I'll say we've had the report for oh an entire half hour, so these will be top line reactions, and there will be more. This is Harry Litman, a former U.S. Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General. [END MUSIC]

THE MUELLER WE KNOW

Harry Litman [00:00:07] [MUSIC] Welcome to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together some of the best-known former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day, including the investigations of the president and his circle.

Harry Litman [00:00:23] Today we're talking about the surprising recent turn of events with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who delivered his, we now know 300-page plus report to the Attorney General last Friday. And we're really privileged to be talking with some of the former feds who know him best and have worked closely with him.

MUELLER PUNTS, BARR INTERCEPTS

Harry Litman [00:00:07] [MUSIC] Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together your favorite former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day, including the investigations of President Trump and his circle.

Harry Litman [00:00:24] Today, the four page cryptic letter from Bill Barr to the Congress and the non-decision by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on potential obstruction of justice charges by President Trump. Finally we'll talk about what if anything is now left open to decide.

BREAKING NEWS: THE REPORT IS IN

Harry Litman [00:00:08] [Music] Welcome to Talking Feds, a prosecutors roundtable that brings together some of the best-known former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most pressing legal topics of the day, including the Mueller probe and related investigations. I'm Harry Litman. I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General and also Assistant United States Attorney, or line prosecutor.

Harry Litman [00:00:34] Good evening everybody. We're here in sort of emergency session because at 5 o'clock, as everybody now knows, the Attorney General of the United States announced that Bob Mueller had given him the much-awaited report and that Mueller's probe is now finished, leaving perhaps more questions than it answered. [End music]

 

Harry Litman [00:00:34] Good evening everybody. We're here in sort of emergency session because at 5 o'clock, as everybody now knows, the Attorney General of the United States announced that Bob Mueller had given him the much-awaited report and that Mueller's probe is now finished, leaving perhaps more questions than it answered. [End music]

PARDON ME.

Harry Litman [00:00:07] [Music] Welcome to Talking Feds, a prosecutors' roundtable that brings together some of the best known former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most pressing legal topics of the day, including the Mueller probe and related investigations. 

 

Harry Litman [00:00:22] I'm Harry Litman. I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General and also Assistant United States Attorney, or line prosecutor. We are here in Washington D.C. with three very experienced and knowledgeable and charming former Department of Justice officials, Elliot Williams, Julie Zebrak, and Elie Honig. Elliot was formerly a Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs at the Justice Department. He is now a principal at the Raben Group, [End Music] a national public affairs firm based in Washington. But you had other jobs in government as well, Elliot, didn't you? 

MUELLER DONE, MANAFORT UNDONE?

Harry Litman [00:00:07] [Music] Welcome to the very first episode of Talking Feds. This is a new kind of podcast. Each episode we bring together four of the most highly respected former U.S. Department of Justice officials for an off the cuff, insider discussion of the most pressing legal topics of the day, like the Mueller probe and related investigations. I promise you won't hear talk like this anywhere else. Not 30 second sound bites, but nuanced deep dives, the way prosecutors really talk when they're talking with each other. 

 

Harry Litman [00:00:39] I'm Harry Litman. I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General, and before that an Assistant United States Attorney, or line prosecutor. Today I'm in Washington D.C. and I'm thrilled to be here with three tremendously knowledgeable and experienced former feds, starting with Joyce Vance. [End music] Joyce was the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, the first female U.S. Attorney nominated by President Obama, and prior to that she was an Assistant U.S. Attorney for many years. How long, Joyce, were you an AUSA for? 

AN INTRODUCTION

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[00:00:07] Welcome to the Talking Feds, a prosecutors roundtable that brings together some of the most well-known former Department of Justice officials for a detailed and dynamic discussion of the most important questions in the Mueller probe and related investigations. I'm Harry Litman. I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General. Each week, I'll be joined by three of your favorite former Feds, mainstays of TV commentary, for a deep dive of questions not in 30-second sound bites but lively give and take, the way prosecutors actually talk. Join us this week as Joyce Vance, Matt Miller, Paul Fishman and I discuss whether Bob Mueller might still subpoena the president of the United States.